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Rob Sockin: latest market views
PGIM
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Chief U.S. Economist at PGIM, appointed in March 2026, who previously spent almost four years as senior global economist at Citigroup Research and earlier worked at the Federal Reserve Board, the U.S. Treasury, UBS and SPX Capital.
Chorus has 8 views from Rob Sockin across 2 episodes on CNBC Closing Bell and Bloomberg Surveillance since October 14, 2026.
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US recession risk raised to about 25%, as Fed hikes and AI-driven growth raise the chance something breaks.
Recession risk was raised from a very low 10% earlier this year to around 25%. Each Fed hike raises the risk that something breaks, and concerns about AI are legitimate and material. Growth is heavily leveraged on the AI capex story and on wealth effects from higher equities for upper-income consumers. A real AI retrenchment could spread through the financial system in ways that are not yet visible, adding financial-stability risk. The outlook is a bimodal distribution, with overheating still the base case at about 40%.
“So we raised recession risk from a very low 10% earlier this year to around 25%.”at 27:30
Inflation is broad-based and will stay high, not just an AI story; energy is also elevated.
His view rests on above-trend growth, a stable labor market and broad-based inflation. Core CPI came in at 0.3%, in line with his forecast. AI is part of the story, but counting the items with elevated inflation shows it is not only AI; high energy prices are a major factor.
“inflation is gonna stay high. Growth's above trend, the labor market's stable, Inflation is broad based.”at 35:40
Keeps the Fed hike call; more hikes than base case possible, though October is not sealed.
PGIM's hike call rests on sticky inflation, above-trend growth and a stable labor market. Today's data supports that view. The print does not seal an October hike, but the firm likes its call and sees more hikes than the base case as possible.
“It doesn't seal the deal that October is gonna happen, but we like our call here. And if anything, it could be more hikes than what we have in the base case.”at 35:53
US inflation is broad-based across many items, not just an AI story; energy is also driving it.
Rob says AI is part of the inflation story but not the main driver. He points to the number of items running at elevated inflation rates, and says high energy prices are also a major contributor.
“I think AI is part of the story. But if you look at just the number of items that are running with elevated inflation rates, it's not just an AI story. It's high energy.”at 36:09
The consumer backdrop is strong; volatile retail sales data likely means payback, not weakness.
Rob says retail sales should not face much pressure because the consumer is coming off a very strong run rate. He notes the monthly data are volatile, so payback is possible, but the trend shows strong growth and a strong consumer backdrop.
“I think for retail sales, I don't think there's a lot of pressure there because we're coming off a very strong run rate for the consumer.”at 36:57
Fed will hike at the October meeting; skipping before midterms would look political.
Rob expects a hike because the data universe is still hot, with a stable labour market and sticky inflation. Earlier softer signals such as downward inflation revisions and a weak jobs report were not the right signal, in his view. He also says Warsh has signalled a hawkish path since midsummer and the Fed already began hiking in September. Skipping in October would look more political, given the message that inflation is a big problem.
“It's really gonna come down to does the Fed wanna hike with the type of data universe we've seen up to this point? We think they will.”at 37:20
If the Fed skips a hike, long-end yields could jump as markets doubt inflation control.
Rob argues the market has priced in a hike after hot inflation data. If the Fed does not hike at this meeting, he expects a large response at the long end of the curve. Investors would then become more concerned that inflation is not being brought under control.
“And you might get a pretty big response on the long end of the yield curve if they don't hike at this meeting that markets are gonna get more concerned that they're not gonna get inflation under control.”at 38:41
China's export machine is resilient, finding markets beyond the US and gaining share despite tariffs.
Expectations were that high US tariffs would slow China's economy. Rob says China has instead been an adaptable export machine that has found export markets beyond the US and grown its market share.
“...what we've seen is an incredibly resilient, adaptable export machine from China... they've been able to find export markets even beyond The US and grow their market share.”at 39:16
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- CNBC Closing Bell · 1 episode
- Bloomberg Surveillance · 1 episode
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