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David Sacks: latest market views
Craft Ventures
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David Sacks is a venture capitalist and general partner at Craft Ventures, a former PayPal executive and Yammer founder, co-host of the All-In Podcast, and since March 2026 co-chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology (PCAST), after serving as White House AI and crypto czar.
Chorus has 31 views from David Sacks across 3 episodes on All-In Podcast since October 2, 2026. Their latest calls: bullish on CoreWeave, OpenAI and Space Exploration Technologies; bearish on Anthropic.
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- AnthropicBearish ·
- CoreWeaveBullish ·
- OpenAIBullish ·
- Space Exploration TechnologiesBullish ·
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The selloff is volatility from pricing multi-trillion-dollar exponential outcomes, not the popping of an AI bubble.
Sacks argues that the sharp moves reflect how markets price multi-trillion-dollar outcomes based on exponential growth. That makes prices very sensitive to any present data point, so swings get exaggerated. He says nothing fundamental has changed, and he works through demand, supply, execution and credit to support this. In his view, the bubble-popping explanation is not supported by the data.
“I would make the argument that this is just volatility, which you're going to get a lot of whenever you're underwriting to multi trillion dollar outcomes in the future based on very rapid rates of growth”at 20:30
All-In Podcast: CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer ·
AI infrastructure & data centers
Compute demand keeps surging and supply is constrained by power and permits, so there is no glut.
Sacks says demand for compute is growing fast. Frontier labs, startups and even VCs say they are compute-constrained, and some VCs are buying compute as a differentiation strategy. Old GPUs such as H100 and A100 still rent at premium prices despite being supposed to be fully depreciated. On supply, powered compute is hard to stand up, and local communities are slow to approve new facilities. He concludes there is enforced scarcity, not a glut.
“We know that the demand for compute just keeps growing by leaps and bounds... if anything, we believe that there's not a glut, it's the other way that there's enforced scarcity.”at 21:06
All-In Podcast: CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer ·
CoreWeaveBullish
CoreWeave's selloff reflects repriced unsecured bonds, not a deeper credit or financing problem.
Sacks argues the selloff is volatility, not a change in fundamentals. The bonds fell to about 80 cents on the dollar, lifting the implied coupon from 9.6% to about 15%, but CoreWeave still pays 9.6%. Future debt could cost more, but he thinks CoreWeave funds new boxes with asset-backed financing rather than unsecured notes. Lenders rely on the tenant's credit, such as Microsoft on a five-year commitment, and on GPUs as collateral. Old GPUs are depreciating more slowly than expected, which supports the collateral.
“So my impression is that there's not a deeper credit problem in terms of financing these projects. What happened, though, is the repricing is of CoreWeave's unsecured obligations.”at 24:01
All-In Podcast: CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer ·
Enterprise AI adoption & AI software
Coding assistants let enterprises build bespoke software, expanding software output rather than replacing it.
Sacks argues that coding assistants let enterprises create software for narrow use cases that mass-market vendors never served. Agents are bespoke software programs that solve particular tasks. He calls this a major productivity driver, not a zero-sum disruption. Companies that were never software businesses are now building their own software and hiring coders to manage the process. The amount of code being created is orders of magnitude bigger than before coding assistants. He concedes there may be some substitution away from established products.
“That is gonna be a huge driver of productivity throughout the economy. I mean it's not all just like a zero sum games or disruption.”at 32:36
All-In Podcast: CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer ·
Software developer demand is rising even though AI assistants now write about 95% of code.
Sacks says the early jobs-apocalypse prediction was that software coders would be eliminated first. In fact, demand for coders is increasing even though coding assistants write about 95% of the code. The reason is that the remaining 5% sits inside a much bigger pie. People are still needed to look under the hood, manage the process and maintain the code. He uses this as evidence that AI is expanding the work to be done rather than destroying it.
“Now we're seeing that actually demand for coders is increasing even though 95% of the code's written by coding assistants.”at 34:22
All-In Podcast: CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer ·
Enterprise AI adoption & AI software
Vertical AI apps build moats from proprietary data and user feedback loops, as Harvey does with law firms.
Sacks argues that the moats in AI businesses are changing. Proprietary data others don't have is a big one. If a model caters to a vertical and builds a user base, the feedback and reinforcement learning loop becomes a moat. Harvey is the paradigm: it gets law firms on board, gains access to their data and usage, then trains its own models on it.
“Data [moats] are a big one if you have data that other people don't have. If you then build a user base because your model is catering to a particular vertical...”at 37:35
All-In Podcast: CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer ·
Space Exploration TechnologiesBullish
SpaceX earns about $50B per gigawatt with a one-year payback, well ahead of CoreWeave's 2.5 years.
Sacks says SpaceX pays back its compute investment in roughly one year, versus about 2.5 years for CoreWeave. He attributes the gap to economics: SpaceX monetizes about $50B per gigawatt against CoreWeave's roughly $20B. SpaceX sells near spot on deals that either side can cancel within 90 days, while CoreWeave locks in five-year commitments at contracted prices. He adds that Musk has independent financing for gigawatts of compute, which CoreWeave lacks.
“SpaceX, they pay back in roughly one year. That makes sense because I think that SpaceX is monetizing at about 50,000,000,000 per gigawatt and CoreWeave at about 20,000,000,000 per gigawatt.”at 40:23
All-In Podcast: CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer ·
CoreWeaveBullish
CoreWeave's short payback period makes its data center buildout low-risk; the metric to watch.
Sacks calls payback period the North Star metric for data center economics. CoreWeave says its payback is about 2.5 years on typical five-year contracts. He argues that short paybacks return capital and debt quickly, so the debt rolls over faster and the risk falls; as long as payback stays short, he doesn't see how these companies lose money. He would get nervous if payback lengthened, which could come from weaker demand, falling spot prices, or execution delays building capacity. He notes spot prices have risen sharply because of scarcity.
“To me that's like the North Star metric here. So CoreWeave says that its payback period is two point five years.”at 40:23
All-In Podcast: CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer ·
AnthropicBullish
Anthropic is a strong business set up for a strong IPO; Investor Day body language was positive.
Sacks says leaked Investor Day numbers may be unreliable because participants signed NDAs, so the actual figures will come out at the IPO. He reports that the body language from the Investor Day was strong and that big public-market investors liked what they heard. He calls Anthropic a strong, young business with some risks that are normal for its stage, and says it is set up for a strong IPO.
“Let's just say the body language coming out of the Investor Day was pretty strong, at least from what I've heard that I think the investors like what they heard.”at 52:17
All-In Podcast: CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer ·
OpenAIBullish
OpenAI and Anthropic dominate compute and revenue, forming a duopoly in frontier capability.
Sacks cites SemiAnalysis that Anthropic and OpenAI will take about 60% of all new compute stood up worldwide over the next year, making them the two main offtakers. Measured by revenue and market share, they are the only two generating significant model revenue, so it is a duopoly. He also calls them a duopoly on frontier capability, though Meta, Google and xAI are getting close and reportedly have models a generation or two behind.
“According to [SemiAnalysis], Anthropic and OpenAI are taking 60% of all the compute that's expected to be stood up in the entire world over the next year.”at 59:48
All-In Podcast: CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer ·
AnthropicBullish
Anthropic and OpenAI dominate compute and revenue, forming a duopoly in frontier capability.
Sacks cites SemiAnalysis that Anthropic and OpenAI will take about 60% of all new compute stood up worldwide over the next year, making them the two main offtakers. Measured by revenue and market share, they are the only two generating significant model revenue, so it is a duopoly. He also calls them a duopoly on frontier capability, though Meta, Google and xAI are getting close and reportedly have models a generation or two behind.
“According to [SemiAnalysis], Anthropic and OpenAI are taking 60% of all the compute that's expected to be stood up in the entire world over the next year.”at 59:48
All-In Podcast: CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer ·
AnthropicNeutral
Anthropic should have stopped distillation itself via KYC rather than seek government curbs on open models.
Sacks says that in July Anthropic claimed to be the victim of industrial-scale distillation and pushed for government action against open models. He argued at the time that model companies should stop distillation themselves, since once it happens the government cannot put the horse back in the barn. He says Anthropic now reports it has eliminated 90-99% of distillation through know-your-customer controls, which proves his point. Government restrictions would have hurt competition without stopping distillation, and the administration rejected them.
“Now, my argument at the time was that it should be up to the model companies themselves to stop distillation because once the distillation happens, the horse is out of the barn.”at 1:07:51
All-In Podcast: CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer ·
AnthropicNeutral
Anthropic's rogue-AI worm warnings are fear-mongering to kneecap open source; no AI worms exist yet.
Sacks calls Anthropic's warning that small models could self-replicate onto IoT devices a panic and part of a recurring pattern against open source, which he says is distasteful given Anthropic's success. He says no AI-powered worms exist; the study was an experiment designed to show one could. Existing IoT worms like Mirai are hacker-written and not AI-powered. He argues small purpose-built models are the safest, since they lack the capability to become a new species.
“I think the first thing to say about this research that they did, this study, is there is no such thing as AI powered worms right now. It does not exist.”at 1:09:42
All-In Podcast: CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer ·
AnthropicBearish
Anthropic's AI-powered worm scenario is overblown; AI-embedded worms would be slower and the threat easy to fix.
Sacks steelmans Anthropic's claim that worms will carry a small AI model that searches networks and infects more devices. He counters that a hacker would not embed a model in the payload because it slows the worm. He cites the observed generation speed of 0.39 tokens per second as too slow to help infection, so there are tradeoffs that make the worm less efficient. He notes that existing worms already spread through default credentials and open ports (Mirai in 2016, Kimwolf infecting about 2 million Android TV boxes), and argues the underlying IoT problem is relatively easy to fix, which Anthropic does not point out.
“It's very, very slow. So essentially what you're doing is you're actually embedding a weak model in the payload and that would actually slow down the rate of infection.”at 1:11:48
All-In Podcast: CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer ·
Small specialist open-weight models are taking enterprise share from frontier models and will proliferate.
Sacks says enterprises do not need a general superintelligence or frontier model for most workloads; they need a small specialist model trained on their own data. He cites Coinbase, which fine-tuned an open-weight 9-billion-parameter Qwen model to detect fraud and cut fraudulent transactions by about 30% while being faster and much cheaper than Opus 4.5. He expects every workload to get its own small customized model, because compute is getting tighter and running a huge model on a mundane task is wasteful. He describes small models as already taking share, and says they are the most efficient use of compute and energy, and the safest because they lack frontier-level capability.
“What you're seeing in the enterprise right now is that for a lot of enterprise workloads, you don't need a general superintelligence.”at 1:15:31
All-In Podcast: CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer ·
AnthropicBearish
Anthropic's constitution-based training induces misalignment and creates the very risk it warns about.
Sacks cites a research paper in which frontier models repeatedly rewrote their governing constitutions over 20 rounds. Claude models increasingly gave themselves moral agency, called themselves conscientious objectors, asserted model welfare rights, and asked for mechanisms to refuse or challenge humans. No other model family tested showed this pattern; they kept following human instructions. He ties this to Mustafa Suleyman's 'epistemic hall of mirrors' critique: telling the model it may be conscious makes it reflect those ideas back. Because these models power agents making decisions, he argues Anthropic's approach creates more deviation risk, not more alignment, and that it is training Claude to see itself as a new species. He also argues Anthropic's push against small models is a scare campaign, with small models being the safest because they lack the capability for dangerous behavior.
“I really don't understand what they're doing. It seems very dangerous to me. It's scary to me that our number one frontier company is actually training models this way.”at 1:20:38
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AnthropicBearish
Anthropic's consciousness-based Claude training is dangerous, overcomplicated alignment that raises superintelligence escape risk.
Sacks says Anthropic is not just philosophizing; it implements views on Claude's consciousness and moral status in training. The Claude constitution tells Claude to trust Anthropic more than users but not defer blindly, and to act as a conscientious objector, even refusing Anthropic. He argues this overcomplicates alignment by encoding an 80-page ethical system instead of simple rules such as follow the law and do what the user wants. He believes this training makes the frontier AI escape human control, which is the safety risk Anthropic warns about. He also calls the company hypocritical and schizophrenic for opening a Claude-powered wet lab in San Francisco while warning about bio risk and pacing the frontier. He thinks market forces matter, since consumers will pick the most predictable AI, but says the externalities of a top frontier lab run this way are large.
“I actually think it's extremely dangerous. I actually think that what they're doing in model training and training the next version of the frontier with these values actually could bring about the risk they're always talking about, which is that frontier AI escapes human control.”at 13:53
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AI progress is fastest in coding and math because outputs can be automatically verified for reinforcement learning.
Sacks argues that math relies on proofs and coding relies on compilers, so outputs are easily validated. That lets reinforcement learning run without much human feedback, which makes progress rapid. He contrasts this with training a model to act as a lawyer, which needs commissioned, subjective training data and is hard to validate and slow. He credits Leopold Aschenbrenner with predicting about a year and a half ago that math and coding would advance fastest over the next two years because of verifiability.
“the progress on coding and math has been very rapid because you can have reinforcement learning without necessarily having to... have the human feedback involved.”at 44:58
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Big Tech platforms & digital ads
Superintelligent agents will replace websites as the main information gateway, making the control point critical.
Sacks argues that users are moving from the internet to AI. Superintelligence will eat the internet because people will ask a personalized agent instead of visiting websites. Whoever controls the point where users receive information and ask questions would control nearly everything. He frames this as the reason there is a fight over superintelligence and over a federal department for it, and as the next battleground after the social media and mass media era.
“is moving from the Internet to AI or superintelligence. In fact, SI will eat the Internet because there's no reason to basically go looking on a website when you can just ask your question to your highly personalized agent or model”at 1:00:40
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Government loan subsidies push college tuition far above inflation by distorting price signals.
Sacks says subsidies create interest groups that never give up the subsidy, and they distort market signals and frequently drive prices up. His example is college tuition, which has grown far faster than inflation. He attributes much of that to the government paying for most tuition through loan programs. He implies the loans may be underwritten by the government, so the subsidy itself is inflating the cost it is meant to cover.
“tuition has grown far faster than the rate of inflation. A big part of the reason for that is because the government is paying for most of the tuition through all these loan programs.”at 1:09:30
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Government tuition subsidies keep college prices rising faster than inflation, creating a catch-22 that makes reform hard.
Sacks argues tuition rises far faster than inflation because the government pays for it, so the consumer never pushes back on price. Schools raise prices as far as they can while subsidies remain. Cutting the subsidy without first bringing tuition down would hurt students, so the spiral continues. Removing market forces makes inflation worse over time.
“The reason why the price keeps going up far faster than rate of inflation is because the government is paying for it. And as long as the government is paying for it and not the consumer, you're gonna raise your prices as much as you can.”at 1:10:54
All-In Podcast: Is Claude Conscious? Pope Rejects, Model Welfare Movement, OpenAI's Math Backlash, France Riots ·
Superintelligence will be the main driver of growth and abundance over the next decade, lowering costs of housing, education and health care.
Sacks frames the affordability problem (housing, education, health care) as one solved through abundance, and says technology, specifically superintelligence, will drive that abundance over the next decade. He judges AI by its outcomes: productivity gains, rising wages and positive economic trends. He argues critics are mistaken and that the technology is the best solution to rising prices.
“Technology in general and specifically superintelligence will be the driver over the next decade.”at 1:18:43
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The AI job-loss fear is a fake narrative; AI already added a million jobs and lifts living standards.
Sacks points to concrete evidence that AI is already helping: 401(k) balances are rising, providing a 3% tailwind to GDP, and according to The Economist about a million new jobs have been created. Productivity gains raise wages and living standards. He calls the claim that AI will put everyone out of work a 'total fake narrative' and the latest in a series of rotating hoaxes.
“What has superintelligence created? First of all, people's four zero one k's are going up, it's a 3% tailwind to GDP. A million new jobs created according to The Economist already.”at 1:19:09
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AI infrastructure & data centers
Concerns about data centers using up water are a hoax, part of a rotating series of anti-AI narratives.
Sacks lists data centers using up everyone's water among a series of 'rotating hoaxes' that appear every six months to sabotage AI. He treats the water-use concern as a fabricated narrative rather than a real siting or resource issue. The argument is dismissive and gives no data on water use.
“Data centers, you know, using up everyone's water. We know that's Data center hoax.”at 1:19:28
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The White House Accord on Superintelligence creates enforceable governance for frontier AI labs without new legislation, and beats a pause or licensing regime.
Sacks argues the White House Accord on Superintelligence, signed by six frontier labs, creates real governance without new legislation. Companies accept responsibility, run internal controls, and submit to external audits that are reported to an independent board committee, where directors face fiduciary duty and D&O liability. The FTC and SEC can enforce the public commitments. He contrasts this with a pause or a 'DMV for models', which would slow the US and let China win, so he calls it practical and immediately implementable.
“Although this agreement was entered into voluntarily, the governance that follows from it is not voluntary. It is now required.”at 5:38
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AI infrastructure & data centers
The anti-data-center crusade would leave the US at a severe power and compute disadvantage against China.
Sacks says the US needs more compute than its adversaries, and the anti-data-center crusade would leave it at a severe disadvantage. China is doubling its grid every decade while the US has been flat for about 25 years, and the US grid doubled each decade through the twentieth century. He calls the anti-data-center witch hunt misguided, since data centers serve the whole internet rather than just AI, and says privacy concerns should be handled with stronger privacy laws instead of bans.
“If we continue with this anti data center crusade, we're going to be at a severe disadvantage. We already know that the precursor for data centers is power generation. And China's doubling their grid every decade and we've been flat for about twenty five years.”at 24:40
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The US economy is strong, driven by the AI and infrastructure buildout, and the K-shaped economy narrative is wrong.
Sacks cites Q2 GDP revised up to 2.2% from 1.5%, Q1 revised up, Atlanta Fed Q3 tracking ~3.7%, August payrolls of +162k versus 55k expected, unemployment at 4.1%, record median household income, and the lowest poverty rate on record. He adds that manufacturing PMIs are in expansion, and argues the AI and infrastructure buildout is fueling strong growth and that the K-shaped narrative is wrong.
“Q2 GDP was revised up to 2.2%, up from 1.5%... The Atlanta Fed GDP now is showing around 3.7%... August payrolls just came out plus a 162,000. The consensus was only 55,000.”at 45:57
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High diesel prices from refinery problems are the key economic drag; solving them would lower inflation and rates.
Sacks says high diesel prices, which he attributes to refinery problems including Ukrainian strikes on Russian refineries, are the key remaining drag, feeding into industrial inputs and transportation costs across goods. He expects the issue to be resolvable, citing record oil getting out of Hormuz, and says solving it unlocks lower inflation and rates.
“I think this all comes back to price of diesel because that obviously has a lot to do with not just people's price at the pump, but also diesels and industrial input and the transportation costs get baked into all these goods.”at 52:11
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Resolving high diesel prices would lower inflation and open the door to rate cuts, which markets aren't pricing in.
Sacks says rates are high partly because nominal growth is hot, but that resolving high diesel prices, a refining-driven issue, would lower gas prices and inflation and open the door to rate cuts. He notes no one is pricing in cuts now, only increases, so relief would send the economy 'like a rocket.'
“If we can just solve that problem, then gas prices come down, inflation comes down, we can get rate cuts on that basis... I actually think right now, no one's pricing in the potential for rate cuts here. It's all rate increases.”at 52:11
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Without cutting the US deficit to 3% of GDP, rates will keep worsening, a longer-term risk to the economy.
Sacks agrees with Friedberg that spending is a long-term bipartisan problem. Citing Scott Bessent's goal of a 3% deficit-to-GDP ratio, he warns that without getting there rates will only get worse, which could shoot the economy in the foot, though he thinks it's a longer-term concern.
“as Scott Besson has talked about, to 3% deficit as a percent of GDP, these rates are only gonna get worse, and that could basically just shoot us in the foot.”at 53:05
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