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UBS On-Air: Paul Donovan Daily Audio 'Oil and bonds'

Summary

Paul Donovan's UBS On-Air daily audio covers oil prices and bond markets, linking energy costs to the broader macro outlook. He notes US diesel prices remain near all-time highs, arguing the administration's efforts so far have done little to bring that price down. He expects developed-economy consumers, who have been spending by drawing down savings, to keep going through the rest of this year, but sees next year as more vulnerable if refined energy prices stay elevated. He also argues US jobless claims understate labour market weakness in a no-hire, no-fire market, because new entrants who struggle to find work never appear in claims data. On French government bonds, he says yields above 5% reflect a return to economic norms after years of unusually low borrowing costs, and that French protests will likely delay shopping and hurt tourism without materially denting broader activity.

Key takeaways

  • Paul Donovan on Oil & fuels: US diesel prices near all-time highs; administration's attempts to influence them have been ineffective.
  • Paul Donovan on US consumer: Consumer spending limits will be tested next year if refined energy prices stay high.
  • Paul Donovan on US jobs & labor market: Labour market is no-hire, no-fire, so jobless claims understate weakness hitting new workforce entrants.
  • Paul Donovan on Europe's economy: Recent French protests will have little impact on broader economic activity.
  • Paul Donovan on Credit markets: French bond yields above 5% are a return to normal borrowing costs, not a new normal.

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Oil & fuels

  • Paul Donovan · UBS Global Wealth Management

    US diesel prices near all-time highs; administration's attempts to influence them have been ineffective.

    US diesel prices remain very close to their all-time highs. Donovan argues this underscores the impotence of the administration's attempts so far to influence that particular price.

    “US diesel prices remain very close to their all time highs, underscoring the impotence of the administration's attempts to date to influence that particular price.”at 0:16

US consumer

  • Paul Donovan · UBS Global Wealth Management

    Consumer spending limits will be tested next year if refined energy prices stay high.

    Developed-economy consumers have kept spending by drawing down savings, and while growth has held up, there are limits. Donovan expects those limits to be unlikely to bind over the rest of this year. Next year is more vulnerable if refined energy product prices stay high, because the willingness to scale back savings is challenged the higher oil goes, the longer prices stay elevated, or the less secure consumers feel about their economic future.

    “Those limits are unlikely to be tested over the remainder of this year, but next year there is more vulnerability if refined energy product prices remain high.”at 1:00

US jobs & labor market

  • Paul Donovan · UBS Global Wealth Management

    Labour market is no-hire, no-fire, so jobless claims understate weakness hitting new workforce entrants.

    The US labour market has been in a no-hire, no-fire pattern. Initial jobless claims are not showing problems, but Donovan argues that pattern does not show up in claims data. New entrants to the workforce may struggle to find work or take longer to find a job, yet they do not register as initial jobless claims, so claims understate labour market weakness.

    “The pattern of the labour market has been focused on a no hire, no fire approach and that doesn't tend to get reflected in the claims numbers because while new entrants to the workforce may struggle to find work or take longer to find a job, they will not show up as an initial jobless claim.”at 1:37

Europe's economy

  • Paul Donovan · UBS Global Wealth Management

    Recent French protests will have little impact on broader economic activity.

    Donovan argues protests do not necessarily have a significant impact on real economic activity. He expects they might delay shopping activity in the short run and affect tourism over the longer term, but they have little impact on broader activity.

    “protests do not necessarily have a significant impact on real economic activity. They might delay shopping activity and in the longer term they might affect tourism, but they have little impact on broader activity.”at 2:21

Credit markets

  • Paul Donovan · UBS Global Wealth Management

    French bond yields above 5% are a return to normal borrowing costs, not a new normal.

    French yields rising above 5% caused a stir, which Donovan sees as a round-number reaction. He argues that after years of unfairly low yields for bondholders, government borrowing costs have returned to economic norms. Governments need to manage that, but current levels are the normal normal, not a new normal.

    “The reality is that after years of giving bondholders unfairly low yields, government borrowing costs have returned to economic norms. Governments need to manage that, but where we are today is not the new normal, but the normal normal.”at 2:52

Topics

  • French government bond yields
  • French protests and economic activity
  • consumer savings and spending
  • diesel prices
  • labor market and jobless claims

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