Bloomberg Talks · · 10 min
Founder at Telsey Advisory Group Dana Telsey Talks Consumer Spending
With Dana Telsey
Summary
Dana Telsey of Telsey Advisory Group walks through the state of US consumer spending, arguing that discretionary money persists among upper-income households despite high inflation, while lower and middle-income shoppers are more selective and gravitate to experiences and viral products. She highlights Chanel's strong comeback under its new designer, with Chanel Crush lipstick sold out, and contrasts it with Gucci, which she says lacks star power. Target's stock is up over 50% this year on assortment newness and collaborations such as Hollister and Warby Parker shop-in-shops, while Walmart's growth is strongest among higher-income households. On the negative side, she calls Nike's athletic footwear category tough and promotional, saying it needs newness, and says LVMH's leather goods division came in weaker than expected because Chinese demand fell in the mid-teens. She also points to GLP-1 drugs driving wardrobe changes, a shift back toward dressier apparel for meetings and events, and a decent but not strongly bullish holiday season supported by early promotions such as Amazon Prime Day.
Key takeaways
- Dana Telsey (bullish on Chanel): Chanel's recovery is remarkable; the new designer's impact has spread from clothing into makeup, which is selling out.
- Dana Telsey (bullish on Target): Target is up over 50% this year on assortment newness and collaborations, a strong big-box performer.
- Dana Telsey (bullish on Walmart): Walmart's fastest growth is coming from its highest-income households, a sign of strong momentum.
- Dana Telsey (bearish on Nike): Athletic footwear is weak and promotional; Nike needs to deliver newness to revive the category.
- Dana Telsey (bearish on LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton): LVMH's fashion and leather goods, 45% of sales, fell short as Chinese demand dropped mid-teens.
What was said, by company and theme
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Chanel
Across the shows: 1 speaker in other episodes, 1 bullish and 0 bearish calls, past 30 days
Dana Telsey · Telsey Advisory GroupBullish
Chanel's recovery is remarkable; the new designer's impact has spread from clothing into makeup, which is selling out.
Chanel has staged a striking recovery over the past year. Its creative change under the new designer [Blazey] affected the clothing first and then the rest of the company, including makeup, where the Chanel Crush lipstick is sold out everywhere. As a result Chanel is back in vogue, which Dana contrasts with Gucci lacking star power.
“Have you ever seen a recovery of a house like Chanel in the last year? It's been amazing... [Blazey's] impact on the clothing impacted every other part of the company. I mean, even their makeup... So Chanel is back in vogue”at 1:02
Target
Across the shows: 1 speaker in other episodes, 1 bullish and 0 bearish calls, past 30 days
Dana Telsey · Telsey Advisory GroupBullish
Target is up over 50% this year on assortment newness and collaborations, a strong big-box performer.
Target's stock is up over 50% this year. Dana attributes this to newness in its assortment and new brand collaborations, including Hollister and Home and Warby Parker shop-in-shops, which reflect the search for value among shoppers.
“Look at Target this year. Target's up over 50%, the newness in the assortment, the new collaborations.”at 4:26
Walmart
Across the shows: 5 speakers in other episodes, 3 bullish and 2 bearish calls, past 30 days
Dana Telsey · Telsey Advisory GroupBullish
Walmart's fastest growth is coming from its highest-income households, a sign of strong momentum.
Walmart's growth is currently strongest in households with the highest incomes relative to its customer base, which Dana cites alongside a broader search for value. This indicates the retailer is attracting a wider mix of shoppers.
“There's that search for value. You look at Walmart, the fastest part of Walmart's growth is coming from household incomes that are at their highest level for Walmart.”at 4:38
Nike
Across the shows: 8 speakers in other episodes, 4 bullish and 4 bearish calls, past 30 days
Dana Telsey · Telsey Advisory GroupBearish
Athletic footwear is weak and promotional; Nike needs to deliver newness to revive the category.
The athletic footwear category has been tough and promotional. Dana says the category needs newness from Nike to recover, and suggests the industry has moved on because post-COVID consumers are dressing up for events, so Nike's current offer is not enough.
“Look at active footwear, the athletic footwear. That category has been very tough. It's been promotional, and you need the newness from Nike to resuscitate the category.”at 5:25
LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton
Across the shows: 4 speakers in other episodes, 1 bullish and 6 bearish calls, past 30 days
Dana Telsey · Telsey Advisory GroupBearish
LVMH's fashion and leather goods, 45% of sales, fell short as Chinese demand dropped mid-teens.
LVMH's fashion and leather goods division, about 45% of the business, came in weaker than expected. Dana attributes this to China, where Chinese consumer demand fell by the mid-teens. Other parts of the group, Sephora and jewelry and watches, were growing well, which highlights how important the Chinese consumer is to the leather goods business.
“Basically, fashion and leather goods, which is 45% of the business, was weaker than expected. Why? China. Chinese consumer demand was weaker. It was down mid teens.”at 7:36
US consumer
Dana Telsey · Telsey Advisory Group
Upper-income consumers have discretionary money, while lower and middle earners choose carefully, favouring experiences.
Despite high inflation, spending continues because discretionary money exists for upper-income households. Lower and middle-income consumers are more selective, so they choose the experiences and viral items they want to spend on rather than broad purchases.
“There's discretionary money out there for upper income. But even when you're looking at lower and middle income consumers, they're choosing what to spend on. So they'll choose the experience.”at 3:24
Dana Telsey · Telsey Advisory Group
Holiday season should be okay, helped by advertising and activation that started early with Prime Day.
Dana expects a decent holiday season, though she is not strongly bullish. Her reason is that advertising and activation are moving spending forward, and the season has already started with Amazon Prime Day, which retailers such as Target followed with their own events.
“I think the holiday season's gonna be okay. And you know why? I think the advertising and the activation... is moving that holiday season. It's already gotten started because Amazon Prime Day kicks it off”at 6:31
GLP-1s & obesity drugs
Dana Telsey · Telsey Advisory Group
GLP-1 weight-loss drugs are driving new apparel wardrobe purchases, and that effect is still continuing.
Dana identifies GLP-1 drugs as a changing force in consumer buying patterns. They are causing wardrobe changes and new apparel purchases as users' bodies change, and she says the effect is not finished because its impact extends over time.
“GLP ones are causing new apparel wardrobe changes, new apparel wardrobe purchases, and they're not done because the impact that it has basically extends.”at 3:45
Consumer & retail
Dana Telsey · Telsey Advisory Group
Consumers are dressing up again, with suits, dresses and tailored bottoms selling well for work and events.
Dana sees a return to dressier apparel. People want to look good and take pride in their appearance, and more meetings, events and conferences are driving this. Suits without ties, dresses, bottoms and denim worn to work and weekend events are all selling well.
“Not formal, but they wanna look good again. They take pride in their appearance. And there's more meetings, there's more events, there's more conferences that people are going to... Dresses is huge.”at 6:11
Across the shows
What other episodes Chorus covered said about the same companies in the 30 days up to this one.
- Nike8 speakers · 4 bullish, 4 bearish calls
- Walmart5 speakers · 3 bullish, 2 bearish calls
- LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton4 speakers · 1 bullish, 6 bearish calls
- Chanel1 speaker · 1 bullish, 0 bearish calls
- Target1 speaker · 1 bullish, 0 bearish calls
Topics
- apparel wardrobe purchases
- assortment newness and collaborations
- athletic footwear demand
- discretionary spending by income tier
- formal and dressier apparel demand
- growth from higher-income households
- holiday season spending
- luxury brand recovery
- luxury fashion and leather goods demand
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