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In the past 30 days, 14 speakers on 10 finance podcasts discussed Asset managers, brokers & exchanges in 23 views. Chorus has followed Asset managers, brokers & exchanges since October 2, 2026.
Who talks about it most
- Kumar Panja · 7
- Terry Duffy · 3
- Kai Wu · 2
- Anna Macdonald · 1
- Vincent Daniel · 1
- Tim Melvin · 1
- Daniel Crosby · 1
- Joe Terranova · 1
- Matt Kaufman · 1
- John Schlegel · 1
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Anna Macdonald · Hargreaves Lansdown
Cash ISA holders often move into stocks and shares ISAs within six months, making cash a first step to investing.
Anna says cash ISAs are popular and that about one in five people who open a cash ISA with her firm go on to open a stocks and shares ISA within six months. She therefore argues cash ISAs can be a first step towards investing. She adds that the cut to the cash ISA limit caused confusion and worry, so the reversal is welcome, but the details of the new starter ISA for investors are not known yet.
“one in five people who open a cash ISA with us go on within six months to open a stocks and shares ISA. So perhaps it is the first step to getting people investing.”at 3:50
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Kai Wu · Sparkline Capital
Fund performance dispersion is mostly explained by factor exposures, not stock-picking skill.
Kai ran his attribution tool on three active funds. Goldman's GVIP, a concentrated hedge-fund-style basket, did okay, but its results can be explained by owning momentum and junk stocks. The VanEck social sentiment ETF (BUZZ) did well, but its returns can be explained by owning junk and high-beta stocks. The Moat ETF underperformed, but its anti-momentum bets explain the shortfall. Over the constrained three-year period, junk stocks did well and quality stocks did poorly, which explains all three funds' results. He concludes investors should adjust for factor exposures first and then judge any residual idiosyncratic alpha.
“Over this constrained past three year period, actually, junk stocks have done well, and quality stocks have done poorly. I think that can be used to basically explain all the performance of these three examples.”at 54:14
Excess Returns: The S&P 500 Is Just 50 Stocks. The Nasdaq Is a 67% AI Bet. Kai Wu on What Else Is Hiding in Your Funds ·
Kai Wu · Sparkline Capital
Dividend, value and low-vol ETFs have near-identical factor profiles, so one could cover all three.
Kai screened the largest dividend (VIG, SCHD), value (VTV, IWD) and low-volatility (USMV, SPLV) ETFs. All six have market beta below one, near-zero SMB, positive value and conservative-minus-aggressive exposure, and negative momentum and intangible value. Their excess-return correlations range from about 0.75 to 0.93. He concludes they are essentially the same fund under different names and sponsors, so one could pick any of them.
“The correlation between these six funds ranges from point seven five to point nine three. So they're basically the same fund. Here's six funds that are just doing all the same thing.”at 58:07
Excess Returns: The S&P 500 Is Just 50 Stocks. The Nasdaq Is a 67% AI Bet. Kai Wu on What Else Is Hiding in Your Funds ·
Vincent Daniel · Seawolf Capital
Brokers' main risk is transaction velocity if the AI boom halts, not holding excessive risk.
Vincent says for brokerage firms he is more worried about transaction velocity if the AI boom comes to a halt. He does not believe they are holding excessive amounts of risk. Big brokers have exposure to private equity, but he thinks the majority of their exposure is through transaction revenue. The risk is mainly lower deal and trading activity rather than balance-sheet losses.
“for the brokerage firms, I'm more worried about transaction velocity if this thing comes to a halt. I don't believe they're holding on to the excessive amounts of risk.”at 15:49
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Tim Melvin · Community Bank Investor
Closed-end fund discounts widen to create buying chances, and activists push managers to narrow them.
Closed-end funds have no marketing-driven buyer base, so their prices follow market psychology. They trade at a premium when popular, a small discount most of the time, and occasionally at a large discount, which is when Melvin buys. His three return sources are asset recovery, discount narrowing, and dividend yield. Activists like Bulldog's Philip Goldstein buy big stakes and push for liquidation or tender offers. Because closed-end funds are permanent capital, managers resist liquidating, so they buy back stock or tender instead. Boaz Weinstein's Saba is the biggest player, and although he has lost some court cases, Melvin expects him to succeed eventually as institutional blocks grow.
“Most of the time, you'll trade at a small discount. Occasionally, you'll trade in an above average discount. That's when it starts to get interesting”at 29:23
The Acquirers Podcast: Tim Melvin: Finding Value Where Wall Street Isn’t Looking ·
Daniel Crosby · Orion
Most funds marketed as active are closet index funds; about three-quarters don't meaningfully differ from benchmarks.
Crosby cites research from Wes Gray and his team to argue that much of what is nominally active asset management is passive management in disguise. He says about three-quarters of what gets marketed as active doesn't differ meaningfully from a benchmark. He concludes that investors who only want to match the market can simply index, but those who want to outperform must hold portfolios that look different from the benchmark, enough to be meaningful but still diversified.
“a lot of what is nominally asset management is just passive management in sheep's clothing. ... about three quarters of what gets marketed as active doesn't differ meaningfully from a benchmark.”at 23:14
Excess Returns: Dr. Daniel Crosby on Behaviorally Optimal Portfolios, Risk Composure and the Casino Myth ·
Joe Terranova · Virtus Investment Partners
Asset management is consolidating; scale matters, requiring cost efficiency, technology and distribution.
Terranova links the Apollo–Mubadala stake to consolidation in the asset management industry. He says scale matters and requires cost efficiencies, technology and distribution. He also credits Apollo's foresight in moving into unique private market areas such as sports, entertainment and places outside the US, since US real estate has limits.
“It speaks to the asset management industry that's going through significant consolidation, and scale matters. You have to have the scale. And along with the scale, the requirements are the cost efficiencies, the technology, and the distribution.”at 34:34
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Matt Kaufman · Calamos Investments
High cap rates on options-based income products usually mean low downside buffers; check the trade-off.
Matt says options-based income products show a clear correlation between the upside or income they offer and the risk investors take on. A high cap rate usually means a low buffer or protection level. He says investors should check the cap rate and protection level, and the income relative to the risk, before buying. He also warns that daily or weekly income streams are often quoted annualized and are unlikely to be achieved in practice.
“There's a pretty clear correlation between the amount of upside you get or the amount of income you get, and the amount of risk that you're taking on... So if you see a product that has a really high cap rate, the odds are your buffer, your protection level is probably low.”at 22:01
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Kumar Panja · J.P. Morgan
Manager dispersion is huge, so manager selection matters more than strategy or average returns.
Kumar says averages hide wide dispersion. In equity long/short, managers at the 75th percentile returned over 12%, while those at the 25th percentile were barely positive at 0.5%. Even in the best-performing strategy, outcomes vary dramatically, which he says highlights the importance of manager selection. Long-only managers have been more consistently successful, with a median return of 12% versus 5.65% for equity long/short.
“And the biggest story is, for us, is dispersion, not just returns.”at 2:44
J.P. Morgan Making Sense: The evolution of hedge fund performance: From enhancer to diversifier ·
Kumar Panja · J.P. Morgan
Hedge fund portfolios have shifted from return enhancers to diversifiers, but leverage and crowding are eroding that diversification.
Institutional hedge fund portfolios were once built mainly to enhance returns, but are now built to diversify. Investors raise concerns that some managers run high leverage, and that leverage combined with crowding or concentration means hedge funds may provide less diversification than planned. Kumar calls this a sentiment not yet backed by flows. He also says tail-hedging managers are a useful tool in principle, but the strategy has been costly, with capital bleed over recent years, though there are exceptions.
“So traditionally, a hedge fund portfolio was very much built to be, in some case, a return enhancer... Nowadays, they're built to be a diversifier.”at 7:53
J.P. Morgan Making Sense: The evolution of hedge fund performance: From enhancer to diversifier ·
Kumar Panja · J.P. Morgan
Tail-hedging hedge fund strategies have been very expensive, eroding capital, though notable exceptions exist.
Kumar says portfolio theory makes tail hedging a useful tool, but tail-hedging strategies have been very expensive over the last few years, causing capital bleed and erosion. He caveats this by noting there have been and continue to be some notable exceptions. As a result, fewer investors use hedge funds as protectors and more use them for diversification.
“tail hedging strategies have been very expensive in terms of capital bleed and capital erosion over the last few years.”at 8:36
J.P. Morgan Making Sense: The evolution of hedge fund performance: From enhancer to diversifier ·
Kumar Panja · J.P. Morgan
Institutional investors plan to keep or raise hedge fund allocations, with new capital driving most of the growth.
Kumar cites a large investor survey in which 98% of investors expect to maintain or increase their hedge fund exposure. 53% of incremental hedge fund exposure is coming from newly deployed capital, not just compounding. He treats new money as the key barometer that investors are voting for hedge funds, and says feedback from the wider investor base points to continued inflows despite recent dislocations.
“So just to back up, so the investor sentiment... continues to be positive. And just to give you a stat from that survey, 98% of investors expect to maintain or increase their hedge fund exposure.”at 11:07
J.P. Morgan Making Sense: The evolution of hedge fund performance: From enhancer to diversifier ·
Kumar Panja · J.P. Morgan
Allocators strongly favour large hedge fund managers: 86% of H1 2026 flows went to managers above $5bn AUM.
In the same survey, 86% of the roughly $90bn of hedge fund flows in the first half of 2026 went to managers with more than $5bn of AUM. Kumar uses this as evidence of a clear preference for larger managers. He links it to scale: large multistrategy managers can absorb the large checks that big institutional investors want to deploy.
“So another statistic from that survey that's quite interesting is 86% of the $90,000,000,000 of flows in the first half of twenty twenty six this year have gone to managers with greater than $5,000,000,000 of AUM.”at 11:55
J.P. Morgan Making Sense: The evolution of hedge fund performance: From enhancer to diversifier ·
Kumar Panja · J.P. Morgan
Quant strategies, especially stat arb and high-frequency quant, are the most in-demand hedge fund strategies.
In the investor survey, statistical arbitrage and high-frequency quant have been the most in-demand strategies. Kumar links this to strong quant performance this year. He also says investors' understanding of how systematic strategies fit into a wider portfolio has grown, so more investors are now including quant in their portfolios. Quant is therefore moving from a popular niche to a standard allocation.
“Statistical arbitrage, high frequency quant have been most in demand.”at 12:24
J.P. Morgan Making Sense: The evolution of hedge fund performance: From enhancer to diversifier ·
Kumar Panja · J.P. Morgan
Multistrategy hedge funds deliver high-single to low-double-digit uncorrelated returns, which attracts investors.
Kumar says multistrategy funds have shown they can deliver high-single to low-double-digit returns that are uncorrelated with markets through the cycle. That is attractive to investors, especially with worries about leverage and a need for managers who can perform. Their scale also suits the large checks institutions want to deploy, which supports demand.
“And as we said before, Multistrats have proven that they can provide that high single, low double digit, uncorrelated return through the cycle.”at 13:06
J.P. Morgan Making Sense: The evolution of hedge fund performance: From enhancer to diversifier ·
John Schlegel · J.P. Morgan
Equity hedge fund clients have delivered more alpha in down markets than in up markets.
Schlegel's firm sees, in its equity client data, that hedge funds generate more alpha when markets are falling than when they are rising. He presents this as an interesting pattern. Kumar agrees that hedge funds have historically been able to protect capital, even if a net long book does not make money in a downturn. The argument rests on one client-data observation, so it is tentative.
“we actually see in the equity space, [at least] clients delivering more alpha when the markets are down than when they're up.”at 16:49
J.P. Morgan Making Sense: The evolution of hedge fund performance: From enhancer to diversifier ·
Terry Duffy · CME Group
Financial product innovation is outpacing regulation, and unvetted CFTC self-certifications risk manipulation.
Over 4,000 self-certifications have been filed with the CFTC without any contracts being stayed or upheld. They cannot all be legitimate and some are susceptible to manipulation, which is a problem for participants. Overseas products are levered up to 250 times, which US participants do not want. Innovation is only good if it does not come at the cost of efficiency and credibility.
“you gotta be careful not to have innovation for the sake of innovation without regulation... We're seeing over 4,000 self certifications going into the CFTC without any of those contracts being stayed or upheld. So that's a problem.”at 34:24
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Terry Duffy · CME Group
24/7 trading is inevitable, but it requires banks and infrastructure to operate around the clock first.
Duffy believes around-the-clock trading is inevitable and that markets will move there. He argues it needs supporting infrastructure, specifically a banking system that also operates 24/7. As evidence, CME can pre-fund small crypto, gold and silver contracts on a Friday, but nobody can pre-fund the $76 trillion US equity market. He concludes that if US markets want to stay competitive, the banking system and government need 24/7 infrastructure in place as well.
“I really believe that twenty four seven trading is inevitable. ... But I can't pre fund $76,000,000,000,000 US equity market, nor can anybody else.”at 39:10
CNBC Power Lunch: Tech Earnings Season, SpaceX Targeting Telecoms, CME Group CEO Interview 10/21/26 ·
Terry Duffy · CME Group
Financial regulation is in a 'ready fire aim' phase, with agency rules easily reversed by the next administration.
Duffy says the regulatory landscape is disconcerting and that anything can go. He notes that the CFTC began in 1973 as a principles-based agency for agricultural products and has since had to cover financial futures, equity indexes and crypto. After 2008 and Dodd-Frank, he says regulators are still working out parts of Dodd-Frank sixteen years later. He argues the current agencies are circumventing acts of Congress through rules and regulations at the CFTC and SEC. Those can be wiped away by one executive order when the next administration arrives, so they are not sustainable. He says regulation is essential for strong markets, though some of it is ridiculous.
“It does feel a bit of a ready fire aim strategy going on right now where anything can go. And so it's very disconcerting.”at 5:43
Odd Lots: CME's Terry Duffy on the Disconcerting State of Finance Regulation ·
Jeff Yan · Hyperliquid Labs
Traditional financial institutions will adopt onchain infrastructure rather than be displaced by it.
Jeff pushes back on calling firms like Van Eck, Round Hill and State Street 'legacy,' since that implies they will be disrupted or displaced. He argues these institutions have strong brand trust and relationships with users, and that those should not change. It is in their interest to adopt new technology that improves their offering. He draws an analogy to AWS: early enterprise pushback against cloud gave way to widespread adoption, so he expects institutions to deploy markets on new infrastructure over time.
“I would push back on them being, quote, unquote, legacy... the institutions you mentioned have great relationships with a bunch of their users... It's in their interest to adopt new technology that improves their offering.”at 58:34
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Dave Nadig · ETF.com
AI stock-picking funds have a mediocre record; any AI edge in investing gets competed away quickly.
Nadig says the early hype that AI would produce black-box funds that beat markets has not happened. Everyone now has the same tools (summarising prospectuses and 10-Ks), so any edge is short-lived, as with high-frequency trading and basic machine learning in trade sizing. He cites the two AI-driven funds he knows, AIQ from Amplify and the PICTAE products. Their record is mediocre: they sometimes pull ahead, but regular stock pickers and indexers beat them in other windows. He calls it mostly a failed experiment, though he expects real AI alpha to eventually sit inside a Jim Simons-style hedge fund that is only revealed later.
“the record's pretty meh. Like, they have windows where they're pulling it out a little bit, but they also have windows where regular old stock pickers and indexers are beating the crap out of them.”at 5:08
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Jerry Baglien · Benefit Street Partners
Scale matters more in asset management; consolidation favors large, diversified platforms.
Jerry says scale matters more and more in asset management, and consolidation continues across the board. Smaller players have disappeared over the last few years while the big names keep growing at good clips. Large, more diverse platforms will continue to win out. Competition does not disappear, though: lenders also compete with banks and insurers.
“I think scale just generally matters more and more in the asset management business, and and you continue to see consolidation there across the board.”at 13:54
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Omar Aguilar · Schwab Asset Management
Investors keep shifting from active funds to low-cost passive beta, a trend Schwab's ETF business reflects.
Aguilar says the industry has seen a clear trend from active into passive investing, with clients preferring lower-cost beta solutions. He cites Schwab's ETF franchise, which is now the fifth-largest ETF manufacturer in the world and gets roughly 35% of its net new ETF assets from outside Schwab. He ties the shift to better information availability and technology, which he says is pushing capital markets toward greater efficiency.
“We have seen the trend that goes from active into passive. We have seen the trend where people prefer lower cost beta solution.”at 31:13
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