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What podcasters are saying about European politics
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In the past 30 days, 21 speakers on 13 finance podcasts discussed European politics in 27 views. Chorus has followed European politics since September 16, 2026: 28 views from 22 speakers on 14 shows.
Who talks about it most
- Rupert Harrison · 3
- Shahin Vallée · 3
- Vincent Deluard · 2
- Neil Howe · 2
- Richard Portes · 1
- Anna Macdonald · 1
- Kurt Volker · 1
- Zanny Minton Beddoes · 1
- Sam Unsted · 1
- Louis-Vincent Gave · 1
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Richard Portes · London Business School
The French political centre has been squeezed out, leaving it hard to see who will lead in 2027.
The middle has been squeezed out in France. Whether Glucksman and the moderate left can gather enough support is uncertain. Meanwhile there are very negative forces on both the right, with Le Pen, and the left, with Mélenchon, and the centre has to put itself forward. He says it is very hard to project that far out.
“The middle is, to some extent in France, being... Has been squeezed out.”at 25:32
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Anna Macdonald · Hargreaves Lansdown
Labour leads polls and split Conservative vote gives PM confidence for an early election.
Anna argues the UK's politics favours the government calling an election. Labour is ahead in the polls, the Green vote has diminished, and the Conservative vote is fragmented by Reform. Even if Reform is polling below earlier levels, it still takes enough votes from the Conservatives that the prime minister may feel confident. A win would give a five-year term to deliver a ten-year plan, which might explain why the budget avoided big tax and spending moves.
“whilst it does feel like we're getting back to two party politics, the green vote has really diminished. Labour is ahead in the polls, and the Conservatives vote has been fragmented by the reform.”at 18:55
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Kurt Volker · Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA)
Far right, not far left, benefits from France's unrest; Le Pen is strongest going into next spring's election.
Volker argues French unrest is driven by a combination of poor university facilities, a labor market where permanent contracts make employers hesitant, so graduates face long stretches of unemployment or underemployment, plus immigration, prices and energy costs. He says the political system feels stagnant and frozen. Although the left is trying to capitalize on this, he expects the unrest to favor the far right, with Marine Le Pen in the strongest position heading into the presidential election next spring, offering a nationalist, Gaullist-style alternative.
“So far, I think you would argue that this unrest is favoring the far right, not the far left, even though the left is trying to capitalize on it. And I think you're gonna see, Marine Le Pen in the strongest position going into that election”at 38:51
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Vincent Deluard · StoneX
Marine Le Pen gains in French polls as riots and Macron's weakness deepen the crisis.
Macron has checked out and is not backing the centrist candidates, and he may want his successor to look worse than he does. The far-right candidate Marine Le Pen benefits from the riots, gaining polling points each day. The far left is also benefiting, so there is no solution for now.
“The far right candidate, Marine Le Pen, is loving this. I mean, every day that the French are rioting, she gets an extra percentage point in the [polling] intentions.”at 34:36
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Vincent Deluard · StoneX
France cannot pass its budget or pension reform, and taxes are near the point where they raise less revenue.
The government tried to raise the pension age but had to walk it back. It now has no majority and has failed to pass the budget in each of the last two years. Neither the far left nor the far right supports the pension reform, and both want to lower the retirement age. Deluard says France can't raise taxes much more, since it is probably on the wrong side of the Laffer curve. He does not expect the government to fall, because nobody wants to take over. Eventually the fiscal problem will be solved, but the cost will be large, and whoever makes the decision will be punished politically.
“The government tried raising the pension age, and then it had to walk back on it. And now it's a zombie government. There is not even a majority.”at 46:45
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Zanny Minton Beddoes · The Economist
French unrest stems from stagnant growth, cost of living and an unsustainable welfare state, not migration.
Beddoes argues the French protests combine ordinary citizens' frustration over poor education, rising cost of living and a non-growing economy, with anarchist and suburban hooligan groups who are mostly French citizens. Migration is a marginal factor since France has low recent migration. The real problem is growth and an unsustainable welfare system, with a state close to bankruptcy and rising bond yields from its fiscal problem. Centre-left and centre-right parties have failed to address this, and handing out more benefits will not fix it. She says Musk exaggerates the migration link, and that the migration explanation gives a simplistic fix that misses the real problem.
“But you're absolutely right that the problem is growth. The problem is an unsustainable welfare system. And the problem is that the people on the streets don't wanna deal with that.”at 15:46
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Rupert Harrison · PIMCO
Rejoining the EU would trade economic gains for free movement and is not for this parliament.
Rejoining the EU raises the same political trade-offs debated since 2016. Any economic benefit would involve giving up some things on the other side, such as free movement, which Burnham appeared to raise as a possibility. Harrison says this is clearly not for this parliament, and even Burnham is framing it as one for the next parliament.
“the economic benefit that that could be claimed would involve giving away some things on the other side in terms of free movement... I think that clearly this is not something for this parliament.”at 9:34
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Rupert Harrison · PIMCO
Burnham's post-election pledges look like groundwork for a Labour–Lib Dem coalition.
Andy Burnham's conference speech framed three big issues as post-election: electoral reform, social care reform (a priority of Ed Davey), and closer ties with the EU. Harrison says these are almost a love letter to the Liberal Democrats. He thinks the speech is preparing the ground for a possible Labour-Lib Dem coalition after an election, or as a fallback option. That in turn feeds investor interest in an early election.
“all of which are sort of almost like a love letter to the Liberal Democrats... it just feels a little bit like this is preparing the ground for a potential Labour Lib Dem coalition after an election or at least as a fallback option.”at 10:04
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Rupert Harrison · PIMCO
UK early election is about 25% likely, most likely in May next year.
Harrison puts an early election at 25%, which he says is not his majority view but not impossible. Calling one right after the budget would be very unusual, since the government has just had good polling. Otherwise it would most likely come in May next year, as a fixed local-election cycle makes an off-cycle vote difficult. He sees the possibility as a reason investors are watching.
“Early election, 25%. ... That's certainly not my majority, but it's it's not impossible.”at 10:50
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Sam Unsted · Bloomberg News
French political risk is drastically high with no clear government, driving French bond yields and spreads wider.
Sam argues French bonds are being repriced on politics rather than the debt level. Earlier fiscal debates brought similar, smaller risk-off moves, but this time there is an election next year and no clear government. He says political risk is now drastically high. John Stepek's spread data supports this: the French-German 10-year spread is near 178bp, close to its record of just under 190bp and the highest since the eurozone crisis. Sam says investors are now discriminating within European bonds, with German yields falling while French and Italian yields rise. John adds that the problem is that nobody is clearly in charge and no one knows who will govern in about a year, not that French debt is high. Sam expects clarity to take at least six to eight months.
“incidences have not been accompanied by an election next year. And so the political risk in France is now, I mean, really quite drastically high.”at 4:34
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Louis-Vincent Gave · Gavekal
Le Pen polling in the mid-40s signals a massive political shift in France.
Violent riots in the cities of Zone B threaten the middle-class and metropolitan Zone A. Zone A is frightened and is turning to the rural Zone C for protection, which is why Le Pen is polling in the mid-40s. A massive political shift is coming. He argues Le Pen would take office in a fiscal and economic crisis with no money in the till, and that breaking heads in the cities will not fix the economy.
“That's why Marine Le Pen is now polling in the mid forties. ... So we are going to see a massive, massive political shift.”at 59:54
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Rebecca Patterson · Council on Foreign Relations
France's political and fiscal strain is the risk that could spread contagion to the US.
Patterson says France keeps her up at night. Governments in France, the US, UK and Japan are holding on to power by delivering cost-of-living help, and austerity gets punished at the polls. France has had six prime ministers in five years. A bailout would need the ECB, which is distracted by a leadership change, and its tools have conditionality France does not meet. Her view is that it will get worse before it gets better, with the April French elections a risk, and she sees 2011 as the template for contagion to US markets.
“France is the one keeping me up at night... And I think we could see contagion to The US... it's gonna get worse before it gets better”at 33:30
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Chris Whalen · Whalen Global Advisors LLC
France's unrest echoes pre-revolution debt debasement; Macron has been a failure as leader.
Whalen compares France's protests and fiscal problems to the decades of money debasement and defaults that preceded the French Revolution and the rise of Bonaparte. He calls Macron a failure who is not engaged. He adds that the Iran war has driven up prices in Europe, that Europe lacks enough fuel for winter, and that the Ukraine-Russia war adds to the pressure.
“it's kind of the precursor to the French revolution. You know, you had decades of money debasement and defaults, before the rise of Bonaparte after the revolution. So I think Macron has been a failure as a leader.”at 34:51
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Thierry Wizman · Macquarie Group
France may stage EU disassociation via referendums, most likely if the National Rally wins power.
Leaving the euro is not simple. There is no protocol for a country to exit a currency and revert to its old one, such as the French franc. Combining national currencies into one was much easier than undoing that. Even so, Wizman expects referendums in France that point toward a staged disassociation from Brussels and the EU, which he calls possible. That is much more likely if the National Rally wins the presidency and then a controlling share of the National Assembly.
“I do see referendums potentially coming in France that will point towards, let's call it a staged disassociation from the strictures of Brussels and the EU. ...it's gonna be much more likely if the national rally wins the presidency and then wins a controlling interest within the national assembly.”at 49:03
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Ken Griffin · Citadel
France's high government spending, at 60% of GDP, has produced turmoil, a warning for the US.
Griffin argues that if one wants to see where socialism leads, France is the example. He notes that the country's government spends about 60% of GDP, yet its streets are full of turmoil. He describes the liberal safety-net socialist Europe the left admires as a nightmare that should not be replicated in the US. He draws a parallel to Paris and Chicago in 2021-2022.
“The country spends 60% of its GDP at the government level. And yet their streets are awash in turmoil.”at 30:19
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Matthew Piepenburg · VON GREYERZ AG
Social unrest from inflation and debt will drive extreme centralization and capital controls.
He argues that social unrest from inflation is inevitable and historically it is followed by extreme centralization from the left or right. He expects this to show up in Europe first and then in the US, through capital controls, restrictions and subtle centralization. He cites France's speed cameras as an early sign of a broke government tightening control. He presents this as a historical pattern repeating itself.
“what often follows social unrest is extreme centralization from the left or the right.”at 13:17
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Mario Draghi
Youth unrest in France, Italy and Germany reflects blocked expectations and a lack of growth, not just violence.
Draghi argues the riots in three countries have different motivations, but they share one circumstance: all three hold elections next year. The deeper explanation is blocked expectations. Young people feel nobody is listening to them, and most people want growth with social justice. Where there is no growth, intergenerational justice becomes hard to deliver. Young people feel they can't easily find jobs and are unequipped for a fast technological transformation. Violence should be condemned, but he says these factors are amplifiers rather than explanations.
“it's a case of blocked expectations. ... has a feeling that nobody's listening to them.”at 2:07
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Adam Farstrup · Schroders
France must fix its own fiscal house; ECB likely backstops France, but the politics have become harder.
Marstrand says the ECB has not yet said it will step in for France, but he thinks it ultimately will, since no one will let France fall off a cliff. France still needs to fix its fiscal position, and recent events over the weekend make that harder for politicians. Upcoming elections raise concern about what a Le Pen presidency would mean, which adds uncertainty for European markets.
“France has gotta sort out their own fiscal house. And if you look at what's happened over the weekend, that makes the picture much harder for the politicians to sort out.”at 34:20
Neil Howe · Hedgeye Risk Management
Macron's collapse and France's left turn to unrest will hand Marine Le Pen a landslide.
Howe says Macron is about to lose the presidency and is advocating that young people burn schools. He also says Macron's answer to the fiscal problem is to cancel the debt and have banks write it off. He argues that when the left turns to violence it usually helps the extreme right, so if this continues it will be a landslide for Marine Le Pen. He adds that a similar dynamic happened in Germany in the 1930s.
“Take a look at France right now... Macron... is about to lose... If this continues, it's going to be a landslide from Marine Le Pen.”at 1:11:35
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Neil Howe · Hedgeye Risk Management
EU members' veto power blocks a common foreign or energy policy, including on Russian gas and oil.
Howe argues the EU has no common will that all members accept as paramount, as the US settled its federalism question through civil war. Any single country has a veto over EU foreign policy. As a result the EU has no concerted policy on buying Russian gas or oil, on the Balkans, or on Iran. He contrasts this with Russia, which is smaller economically but unified, and argues Europe would need to act together to defend itself.
“Any single country in Europe has a veto power over any foreign policy action of Europe as a whole. That's why it has no concerted policy about buying gas or oil from Russia”at 1:21:05
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Jim Bianco · Bianco Research, L.L.C.
Cheap Chinese imports gutting European manufacturing are fuelling right-wing populist gains in Germany, France and the UK.
Bianco points to Europe's large volume of BYD cars and says Europe is now learning that cheap Chinese goods are gutting its manufacturing sector. He links this to the rise of right-wing movements: AfD might win in Germany, the National Rally in France, and Reform in the UK. He presents this as the real politics behind the tariff debate, saying the jobs losses have driven voters to these parties. He admits he is somewhat libertarian and that there are pros and cons, but argues the political reaction is the key dynamic.
“Europe, which has BYD cars all over the place, is now starting to learn that it is gutting their manufacturing sector.”at 12:17
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Shahin Vallée · German Council on Foreign Relations (DGAP)
Centrists are collapsing, so France's 2027 elections leave fiscal policy harder to set than today.
The budget announced was roughly in line with expectations and perhaps slightly better, so fiscal news is not the trigger; the change is perceived political risk. Centrist candidates have fallen in first-round polls and now lose in hypothetical runoffs to Marine Le Pen, so the likely runoff is Le Pen versus Jean-Luc Mélenchon. Le Pen could win the presidency but struggle to win a majority in the general election a month later, especially against a strong far-left opponent. Markets had assumed a credible fiscal adjustment by 2027 under a president and parliament able to pass it. Vallée thinks France may now be worse placed to decide fiscal policy after the elections than it is today, since Macron has lacked a majority since 2024.
“I think they're worried about French debt not because there is anything new about fiscal policy... I think what has changed in the last few weeks is the perception of the political risk”at 9:08
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Shahin Vallée · German Council on Foreign Relations (DGAP)
A Le Pen-led France would likely be more antagonistic to the EU than Meloni's Italy.
Far-right parties across Europe have mostly stopped opposing the euro and the EU, so the difference lies in France's position. Unlike Italy, which was a net recipient of about 300 billion euros from the recovery and resilience facility, France is a net contributor to the EU budget. That gives a Le Pen government leverage to pick a fight over the EU budget, which is being negotiated now. Vallée argues that Meloni had no such leverage when she took power. He adds that France under Le Pen would have much more difficulty building a governing coalition than Meloni did.
“Le Pen would be in a different position than Meloni because France is a net contributor to the EU budget, and so Le Pen could pick up a fight with the EU on the EU budget”at 13:26
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Shahin Vallée · German Council on Foreign Relations (DGAP)
Mélenchon's idea to cancel Banque de France-held debt is provocative and would unsettle markets, not help.
About 20% of French public debt is owed to the Banque de France, which holds it from ECB asset purchases during the euro crisis and COVID. Mélenchon said he would cancel it, first 'throw it to the fire' and later put it 'in the freezer', meaning the ECB would roll it indefinitely. That would cut financing costs at the margin. Vallée thinks he proposed it to be provocative and did not see it would heighten debt sustainability concerns. The ECB governor, Emmanuel Moulin, said it would violate European treaties and warned France could be strangled by its debt. Mélenchon reacted angrily and threatened the governor with a high treason trial. Vallée sees a Varoufakis parallel: Mélenchon could gain political credit by standing against markets, but the policy is unrealistic.
“So he's put this on the table, I think deliberately to be provocative, not realizing I think that this would excite even more market concerns around debt sustainability”at 27:12
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Chamath Palihapitiya · Social Capital
Andy Burnham's UK platform moves Britain toward Europe's socialist model, likely sparking a harsher UK market reaction.
Chamath says Burnham's platform is more aggressive than France's: it would take the UK from a centrist economy closely aligned with America toward Europe. The UK would then need even more extreme measures to catch up to France's socialist leanings. He predicts the UK market is going to 'go crazy' as a result, and sees the trend as fragmenting the Western alliance.
“Andy Burnham's platform is, I would say, even more aggressive because Andy Burnham is saying we're gonna go from a moderate centrist economy that has largely and historically been very aligned with America, and we're actually gonna take a step closer to Europe.”at 1:14:35
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Dominik Leusder · London School of Economics
Industrial decline from the external trade shock is boosting Germany's far right and hurting incumbents in regional elections.
Industrial decline from the external trade shock is producing real electoral consequences in Germany. The far right is doing very well in regional elections and incumbents poll poorly, as the far right frames industrial decline as an incumbent and green/energy policy failure, though evidence suggests the decline is mostly driven by the external trade shock.
“the far right is doing very, very well in these elections and the incumbents are polling very poorly because the far right has managed to frame the issue of industrial decline... around a failure of the incumbents and the failure of, you know, green policies and energy policy”at 47:50
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Aidan Garrib · PGM Global
AfD's rise could be the shot across the bow forcing the EU to fix the economy.
Aidan says Chancellor Merz is deeply unpopular and the AfD is gaining support in Germany. If the European Commission cares more about staying in power than fixing the economy for ordinary people, the AfD's rise is the warning shot that could push it to act. He hedges that he may be wrong and that the bankruptcy trend could continue for years.
“if you're of the view that the European Commission doesn't really care about fixing the economy for the average person... Like having the AFD rise in Germany is going to be that shot across the bow.”at 52:10
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Michael Moritz · Sequoia Heritage
Economic distress lets authoritarian leaders stoke despair, driving far-right gains in the US and Europe.
Moritz argues that far-right governments have risen in the US, UK, France and other European countries. His mechanism is that in times of economic distress, tens of millions of people feel left behind, and that despair can be exploited by leaders with authoritarian impulses. He cites the recent far-right result in a German state election as an example. The argument is a general political view with a causal mechanism, not a market call.
“I think in times of economic distress, where you have millions of people... who feel they've been left behind. That feeling of despair can easily be whipped up into a horrendous stew by leaders with authoritarian impulses.”at 12:48
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