Squawk Pod (CNBC Squawk Box) · · 39 min
AI Math vs. Human Math & Tariffs in the Midterms 10/8/26
With Jamieson Greer, Tristan Buckmaster
Summary
USTR Jamieson Greer defended the administration's trade agenda, citing deficit reduction, 72,000 new manufacturing jobs, 110,000 factory construction jobs and revised GDP growth of 2.2% and 2.5%. He argued Canada already receives the most favorable tariff treatment, with only about 5% of Canadian imports tariffed, and described a 36-country G20/OECD overcapacity coalition targeting Asian, largely Chinese, excess supply, while calling China's export-led growth and weak domestic demand a pressure point. Greer also said Treasury's expanded Iran sanctions and rerouting around the Strait of Hormuz will erode Tehran's leverage. Separately, Tristan Buckmaster accused OpenAI of rapidly replicating his team's AI-assisted math work after learning of it, questioning how well user data and research proposals are walled off, and arguing that OpenAI's paper release displaces early-career research mathematicians.
Key takeaways
- Tristan Buckmaster (bearish on OpenAI): OpenAI's user-data protections are weak, given a Claude-assisted hack of its internal systems.
- Tristan Buckmaster (bearish on OpenAI): OpenAI reached his unpublished Navier-Stokes result within a day, using his methods after learning his name.
- Tristan Buckmaster (bearish on OpenAI): OpenAI's recent paper release wiped out early-career mathematicians' research programs.
- Tristan Buckmaster (bearish on OpenAI): OpenAI has a massive conflict of interest: its panelists see researchers' private proposals and can front-run customers.
What was said, by company and theme
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OpenAI
Across the shows: 18 speakers in other episodes, 10 bullish and 18 bearish calls, past 30 days
Tristan Buckmaster · New York University (Courant Institute)Bearish
OpenAI's user-data protections are weak, given a Claude-assisted hack of its internal systems.
Buckmaster says a model-training setting was left on by default on one of his personal accounts, which he did not switch off. He argues there are not the walls people believe between his work and user data at OpenAI. He points to a white hacker who used Claude to get into OpenAI's internals and access user data, and says OpenAI's sandboxes are not holding up at all. He suspects his work was collected from his account.
“I mean, you know, just recently, they had a white hacker who used Claude to hack into their system and gain access to their internals and get access to user data.”at 31:19
Tristan Buckmaster · New York University (Courant Institute)Bearish
OpenAI reached his unpublished Navier-Stokes result within a day, using his methods after learning his name.
Buckmaster says that before OpenAI learned his name it had no progress on the problem. After it did, its agents started from where his team left off. He says OpenAI used about 100 agents, or 10,000 by another account, and got to exactly where his team was, with the same argument and methods, within a day. He notes OpenAI's account has shifted, including its date for the private data used, and that it has not denied the tactics he described on the call.
“They used a 100 agents and they got to exactly where we were with exactly the same argument and exactly the same methods within a day.”at 33:26
Tristan Buckmaster · New York University (Courant Institute)Bearish
OpenAI's recent paper release wiped out early-career mathematicians' research programs.
Buckmaster says OpenAI's batch of papers released on Tuesday destroyed the careers of early-career mathematicians. He says whole research programs were wiped out by that release, so the speaker sees AI output from OpenAI as displacing human mathematical research work.
“the recent dump of papers on Tuesday which destroyed the careers of early career mathematicians. So we've had whole research programs wiped out on Tuesday by their dump”at 36:51
Tristan Buckmaster · New York University (Courant Institute)Bearish
OpenAI has a massive conflict of interest: its panelists see researchers' private proposals and can front-run customers.
Buckmaster argues OpenAI has a conflict of interest because research proposals are reviewed by panelists whose summaries and knowledge can flow into models. He says that for the next few years OpenAI will have all the mathematicians' and scientists' research programs in its training data and can see how they plan to proceed. He reads this as disdain for customers, since a company that can look at a researcher's private notes and beat them to market gives customers little reason to buy its product.
“they have a massive conflict of interest right? They have all they for the next few years they have all all the mathematicians and scientists as research programs in their training data... the fact that they would front run their customers. I mean it shows their sort of disdain for their customers.”at 37:26
Across the shows
What other episodes Chorus covered said about the same companies in the 30 days up to this one.
- OpenAI18 speakers · 10 bullish, 18 bearish calls
Topics
- AI displacement of research mathematicians
- AI-assisted math research
- Canada tariffs
- global overcapacity coalition
- managed trade with China
- sanctions pressure on Iran
- tariff policy results
- training on customers' private research
- user data protections
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