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What podcasters are saying about Japan's economy
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In the past 30 days, 12 speakers on 11 finance podcasts discussed Japan's economy in 24 views. Chorus has followed Japan's economy since October 1, 2026.
Who talks about it most
- Jesper Koll · 7
- Andrew McDermott · 5
- Vincent Deluard · 3
- Benn Steil · 1
- Chetan Ahya · 1
- Masa Takeda · 1
- Paul Donovan · 1
- Colin McQueen · 1
- Jim Iuorio · 1
- Mia Nagasaka · 1
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Andrew McDermott · Mission Value Partners
Japan's decades weren't lost; its economy and social outcomes lead the world, unlike the US.
He argues the 'lost decades' narrative is a financial-industry artifact: outside finance, Japan's last decades were good, with food, travel and quality of life drawing people to it. He cites Japan leading on all measures of social well-being, while US political dysfunction, crumbling infrastructure and health outcomes show America's decades were the ones lost. He also says higher interest rates are not hurting Japan because it has become a growth market, driven by robots, rare earths, nuclear plants and semiconductor capacity.
“Japan's last decades have not been lost unless you're in the financial markets... Japan is far and away on all metrics of social well-being a leader.”at 17:55
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Andrew McDermott · Mission Value Partners
Japan's corporate governance shift came from companies adapting to survive, not from Abe's policy.
Andrew argues that Japan's corporate changes were not top-down. Abe was a politician reacting to what was already happening. Japanese companies that wanted to survive had to change: they moved away from managers who only focused on resilience and toward capital-markets-driven returns. He compares this to the US model of 1950-1980 and notes that cross-holdings unwound as ownership changed. He also says the low-ROE framing used by Western investors misses the context.
“It's not because of Shinzo Abe. It's because these Japanese companies, in order to survive, had to make a bunch of changes”at 37:01
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Andrew McDermott · Mission Value Partners
Japan's public balance sheet is not an outlier and is structurally more favourable than the US.
Andrew says that when public and private pensions are consolidated, Japan is not an outlier. Japan is a large net owner of foreign assets, and it has repeatedly restructured its liabilities. Its pension benefits are nominal while its assets are real, and it has held equities through the recent growth period. He also cites the country's historic ability to adjust, PISA results and infrastructure as evidence of strong underlying assets. He concedes Japan has a debt problem but says the US is in a worse position.
“Japan is not an outlier, and second, that the structure of Japan's balance sheet is very favorable as is the historic ability to make adjustments.”at 46:27
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Andrew McDermott · Mission Value Partners
Rising JGB yields make Japanese pension assets stay home, reducing overseas bond buying.
GPIF has a real return objective of about 1% over real wage growth. Andrew says JGB yields have risen to a level that is now attractive against hedged US Treasuries for that objective, which was not the case when yields were near 25 basis points. A fixed-return mandate has no reason to take overseas currency risk when domestic bonds meet the target. He adds that Japanese lenders could pull money from foreign fixed income, and that even small changes in Japanese allocations could have a large effect on other markets. He flags France as the largest outflow area.
“When you've got a fixed objective like that, why take that overseas currency risk?”at 53:31
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Andrew McDermott · Mission Value Partners
MIT's partnership with Tokyo's science consortium is a sign Japan is regaining tech and talent momentum.
Andrew cites MIT's comprehensive partnership with the Tokyo Science Consortium as a sign Japan is gaining ground. The deal covers venture investing, technology commercialisation, research, and student and faculty exchange. He contrasts this with MIT training Chinese engineers at a far higher ratio than Japanese engineers, which he sees as a worry. He argues Japan can lead in an AI age and that democracies partnering with Japan could counter China's tech progress.
“About three weeks ago, MIT announced a comprehensive partnership with the Tokyo Science Consortium... Now that to me is a great sign.”at 57:56
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Vincent Deluard · StoneX
Long yen versus euro is working as Asia gains favourable terms of trade and Japan's currency-led playbook applies.
Japan had two decades of stagnation and a debt crisis, and Abe and Kuroda responded by pushing the yen down as far as needed. The yen roughly halved from its 2012 level, which Deluard says is even larger after inflation adjustment. He expects Europe to need a similar weak-currency adjustment. He holds this view through a long position in the yen and Korean won against the euro, which he says has been a 'gravy train'. Asia is enjoying a favourable terms-of-trade shock, and the People's Bank of China is letting the yuan reset higher, which supports the trade.
“So the way I've expressed that view is with a long yen and Korean won against the euro, and this trade has just been gravy train.”at 1:05:03
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Benn Steil · Council on Foreign Relations
Japan's yen intervention was funded by selling about $88bn of foreign securities, mostly Treasuries, despite Bessent's loan.
Bessent worried that Japan was selling Treasuries to intervene and push up the yen. He lent Japan money through a Fed facility so it would not have to sell them. Bessent declared victory because the yen did rise. A month later, Japanese data showed the Ministry of Finance had spent about $99bn intervening and had sold about $88bn of foreign securities, nearly all Treasuries. Steil says this shows Bessent's logic did not work.
“the Japanese Ministry of Finance had intervened in the currency markets to the tune of about $99,000,000,000 And they had sold $88,000,000,000 worth of foreign securities, all or almost all of that Treasuries.”at 13:27
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Chetan Ahya · Morgan Stanley
Japan's inflation comes from yen weakness and commodities, not demand, as consumption lags.
Japan's inflation has been driven largely by FX weakness and higher commodity prices rather than by demand-side pressure. The evidence is that real consumption is still about 1% below pre-COVID levels, so the economy is not overheating. This is why Ahya thinks the BOJ will not need aggressive tightening.
“we think that Japan's inflation has been largely driven by FX weakness and higher commodity prices and not due to demand side pressures. ...real consumption is still 1% below pre COVID levels.”at 4:53
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Masa Takeda · SPARX Asset Management
A weak yen helps Japanese corporate fundamentals; the fund's portfolio is naturally hedged.
The fund is broadly invested in global Japanese companies. A weak yen helps their business fundamentals rather than hurting them. Takeda says the portfolio is positioned so that whichever way the yen moves, it is naturally hedged for dollar-based investors.
“No. I think it's actually the opposite because we are broadly invested in global Japanese companies. So the weak [yen] actually helps the business fundamentals.”at 23:39
Vincent Deluard · StoneX
Japan is exiting its debt trap, and he likes the yen.
Japanese rates are rising and money is flowing back into Japan. Japanese investors repatriating capital drove much of the pain in the French sovereign bond market. Japan's tax collections have grown about 7% a year for ten years. Under the debt-trap logic, the cost of debt (R) minus growth (G) is deeply negative: rates have risen from zero to about 4%, but nominal growth is about 7%. The debt trap is ending, which supports the yen.
“In Japan, R minus G is very negative. Even if R has gone up quite a bit, I mean, R was zero, now it's 4%, but G is seven. So you're still doing good. The Japanese yen would be one that I like.”at 36:15
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Vincent Deluard · StoneX
Long yen is a good defensive hedge; Japan's growth far outpaces its borrowing costs, so no debt crisis.
Japan's tax collection has grown about 7% a year for ten years. Japan's r minus g (cost of debt minus growth) is very negative: r has risen from zero to about 4%, but g is about 7%, so the debt dynamic remains healthy. Because he is worried about the stock market, he sees being long the yen as a useful hedge. The yen tends to rise defensively when risk assets fall.
“So because I'm worried on the stock market think being long yen is a nice hedge.”at 36:32
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Paul Donovan · UBS Global Wealth Management
Japan's September exports were unusually weak, below every forecast, despite the weaker yen.
Japan's September trade data showed higher oil prices lifting imports and chip sales supporting exports. Export data nonetheless came in weaker than every surveyed economist expected, which is extremely unusual given the wide range of trade estimates. The weaker yen should have automatically boosted export values because Japan often invoices exports in dollars, so the miss is an anomaly against that mechanism.
“However, the export data was weaker than every surveyed economist expected. ... it is extremely unusual for the data to come in below every estimate. This was in spite of the weaker yen because Japan often invoices for its exports in dollars”at 3:31
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Jesper Koll · Monex Group
Labor scarcity, not AI, will drive Japan's productivity growth by forcing firms to change pay and incentives.
Japan is not a high-GDP economy: average age is about 50 and one in three people lives off a pension, which drags on GDP. But investors should focus on macro dynamics and corporate earnings, where labor scarcity is a catalyst for change. Japanese firms historically paid by seniority and were risk-averse. Now human capital is scarce, so companies such as NTT are moving to pay-for-performance and meritocracy, and productivity growth will come from motivating teams, not from buying AI.
“the scarcity of labor is now a catalyst for changing internal rules, internal motivation, internal incentives.”at 8:02
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Jesper Koll · Monex Group
Japan's public debt is not a macro problem because the private sector runs large surpluses.
Japan has excess capital and domestic banks have excess deposits, so it is not dependent on attracting foreign capital, unlike the UK with its balance-of-payments deficits. For every 100 yen of public debt added over the last twenty years, the private sector generated 140 yen of savings, which sit on corporate balance sheets and in household savings. Debt is a problem for the government budget, because interest now takes about a quarter of spending, and that rises with rates. But it is not a macroeconomic problem.
“for every 100 yen of public debt taken on over the last twenty years, the private sector has generated 140 yen of savings.”at 11:42
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Jesper Koll · Monex Group
Japanese households and pensions are shifting savings into domestic JGBs, a trend he expects to continue.
Over three decades domestic fixed-income returns were pinned near zero, which pushed savings abroad. Now the 10-year JGB yields about 3%, and the 2% level triggered record household buying of JGBs, with savings moving out of demand deposits. At the margin, pension and insurance inflows are rising toward JGBs as well. He sees this as the end of a 12-14 year outflow cycle and expects the asset allocations of GPIF, pensions, insurers and retail investors to shift toward domestic assets within a year. He also argues fears of bond issuance outrunning domestic savings are vastly exaggerated.
“household savings, you know, going out of demand deposits actually going into the JGB market. Right? And that will continue.”at 15:35
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Jesper Koll · Monex Group
Japan has exited deflation: output gap is positive and real wages are rising, so inflation is the problem.
When Abe took office, the output gap was about minus four, meaning deflationary slack. Today the gap has closed and turned positive. Wages are rising 5 to 5.5%, and real wages have grown for eight consecutive months. Companies now have pricing power. Takaichi's main problem is therefore inflation, not deflation, which is why her earlier opposition to rate hikes is shifting.
“the output gap is not just closed, but it's actually positive. Takaiichi's primary problem is the fact that there is inflation. Wages are rising five, 5.5%.”at 18:44
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Jesper Koll · Monex Group
Each 10 yen of yen depreciation adds roughly 0.3-0.4 points to Japan's CPI.
Yen weakness against the dollar feeds straight into consumer prices in Japan. Each 10 yen of depreciation adds about 0.3 to 0.4 percentage points to the CPI. Oil and global food prices add to that and erode household purchasing power. Inflation is the top concern of 80-95% of voters, and that is why Prime Minister Takaichi asked for help on the yen.
“for every 10 yen of depreciation of the yen against the dollar, you're adding about 0.3 to 0.4 percentage points to the consumer price index here in Japan.”at 29:04
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Jesper Koll · Monex Group
Japan's 2026 upcycle is broad-based and not AI-dependent, making Japan a bastion of stability.
Koll cites the Tankan survey, which shows the upcycle spreading across small and medium-sized companies and the services sector, not just large firms or industry. Because it is not concentrated in AI, Japan is less exposed than the US and Korea to an AI capex slowdown. He expects that if US cost of debt starts to cause problems, Japan will be in a very good position.
“So Japan is a bastion of stability because the breadth and the depth of the... The 2026, you know, economic upcycle, right, is not AI dependent.”at 45:50
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Jesper Koll · Monex Group
Takaichi must show concrete public-private projects at scale in the 2027 budget to ease bond market fears.
Koll calls fiscal policy Japan's most structural issue. He says PM Takaichi talks a big game, but the 2027 budget is being compiled over the next two and a half months. He wants two or three concrete public-private partnership projects at scale, such as quantum computing or humanoid robotics, with a potential for high investment returns. Without them, he says, bond markets will fear pork-barrel spending.
“I need to see at least two or three concrete examples of what these public private partnerships actually look like and that they are at scale.”at 1:00:17
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Colin McQueen · T. Rowe Price
Weak yen flatters Japanese exporters' earnings, but a sharp reversal could hit them hard.
The yen has been very weak, which is a large tailwind for Japanese exporters. The manager says they are not currency experts, but the yen is far from purchasing power parity. If it reverses, it could move sharply the other way. The fund therefore does not treat today's earnings and cash flows of Japanese companies as permanent. This caution is one of the reasons it has moved underweight Japan.
“The yen has been super weak, so that's a massive tailwind for the exporters in Japan... if it moves, it could move quite sharply the other way.”at 44:14
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Jim Iuorio · TJM Institutional Services
Japanese bond yields are rising and could cause problems; Japan's situation is a different animal.
Jim says Japanese yields are rising like France's, but that Japan is a different animal. He believes the Bank of Japan is supporting the yen, and says the bond and yen shorts that began in August are a concern. He thinks problems could come from Japan and Europe, and these worries put him on the con side of his pros-and-cons list.
“Yields in Japan are as well but Japan's a different animal. I think that there's a lot of problems that could come from there.”at 1:01:40
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Mia Nagasaka · Morgan Stanley MUFG Securities
Japan is entering its first meaningful capex cycle in nearly three decades, as firms need capital to grow.
After decades in which Japanese companies held more cash than investment opportunities, investment needs are broadening, from labor-saving technology to replacement of aging equipment, and companies are reallocating capital toward higher-return businesses. She calls this the first meaningful capex cycle in nearly three decades and a shift from an economy of excess savings and underinvestment to one where companies need capital to grow, though she conditions this on the transition continuing.
“We think Japan is entering its first meaningful CapEx cycle in nearly three decades. Investment needs are broadening, from labor saving technology to the replacement of aging equipment.”at 0:56
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Aidan Garrib · PGM Global
Japan has won the export share battle with Europe; BOJ hiking on strong growth.
Aidan argues the real trade war has been between Japan and Europe for export market share, since global growth has been weak since the GFC. Japan's net international investment position has held up after decades of trade surpluses, and it is now burning some FX reserves to squeeze yen shorts at 160. Europe's flows are hollowing out while growth in Japan is strong and real wages are rising, which is why the BOJ is hiking.
“Japan has won that battle. ... Japan like the BOJ's hiking because like growth is strong, real wages are up”at 44:58
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Brij Khurana · Wellington Management
Yen carry trade now flows into US stocks, making yen moves matter more for equities than bonds.
The classic yen carry trade meant shorting the yen to buy high-yielding emerging markets, but that is no longer the pattern. Japanese investors have not been buying US Treasuries much, and their foreign Treasury holdings have fallen relative to US debt. The money has gone into US stocks. In the August 2024 yen carry unwind, emerging markets held up fine, while the unwind was far more correlated with US stocks than with anything else. So the yen matters more for stocks now than for bonds. Japanese investors hold US assets largely unhedged, so they gained from both rising US stocks and a weaker yen. That left less demand for yen assets. Bessent's aim, in Khurana's reading, is to stabilise the yen so the trade is no longer one-way, which would make hedging cheaper and could bring capital back to Japanese bonds and lift yields.
“it matters, I think, more for stocks now than it does for bonds.”at 40:13
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