In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · · 11 min

Friday Wrap-Up: Milken’s Method and a Tech Day in New York

Summary

Nicolai Tangen, CEO of Norges Bank Investment Management, uses this wrap-up to reflect on a New York tech day and on Milken-style thinking about markets. He argues that corporate AI adoption is surprisingly weak: after sitting in on management meetings at a European and a US company, he is struck that top leadership is not pushing harder for AI implementation, and he sees a widening gap between AI-driven firms and old-economy businesses. He extends this into an investment-risk argument, saying a large share of market and societal risk sits in legacy businesses that private equity and players such as SoftBank will buy and reshape with AI, citing a security guarding company where guards may be replaced by AI. His core conclusion is that standing still on old technology is dangerous, since a firm that does not adopt AI risks being taken over by someone who will. He also contrasts the US and Europe after the financial crisis, arguing the US took its losses and moved on while Europe lingered with losses and unrepaired banks, leaving Europe slower to recover and making US agility a real advantage.

Key takeaways

  • Nicolai Tangen on Europe's economy: Europe was slower to recover from the financial crisis because it took losses longer and never cleaned up its banks.
  • Nicolai Tangen on Enterprise AI adoption & AI software: Surprised how little effort top managements put into AI adoption; a widening gap separates AI-era companies from old industries.
  • Nicolai Tangen on AI & jobs: Old businesses face obsolescence; PE buyers are acquiring them to replace labour with AI, so not adopting AI is risky.

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Europe's economy

  • Nicolai Tangen · Norges Bank Investment Management

    Europe was slower to recover from the financial crisis because it took losses longer and never cleaned up its banks.

    Tangen contrasts the US and Europe after the financial crisis. The US shrugged off the losses, took them and moved on, while Europe did not, so it was stuck with losses for much longer and did not clean up its financial institutions. He concludes this left Europe much slower to get going again, while the US's agility in changing direction is a real positive.

    “We saw it for instance after the financial market, after the financial crisis, they just in a way shrug it off, take the losses, move on. It's something we did not do in Europe. We were stuck with, you know, with losses for much longer. It didn't clean up our financial institutions.”at 5:44

Enterprise AI adoption & AI software

  • Nicolai Tangen · Norges Bank Investment Management

    Surprised how little effort top managements put into AI adoption; a widening gap separates AI-era companies from old industries.

    Based on sitting in on company meetings with top managements at both a European and a US company in New York, Tangen finds corporate AI adoption and integration efforts surprisingly weak. He sees a growing gulf between modern, AI-driven companies and old industries that still operate in old-fashioned ways, and says he is surprised there isn't more focus from the top to get AI implementation going.

    “I am surprised how little effort they put into AI adoption and AI integration. Increasingly, there is this big gulf opening up between companies in the kind of modern world, in the AI world and old industries”at 6:35

AI & jobs

  • Nicolai Tangen · Norges Bank Investment Management

    Old businesses face obsolescence; PE buyers are acquiring them to replace labour with AI, so not adopting AI is risky.

    Tangen argues that a large part of the risk in society and the stock market now lies in old businesses that will be replaced or made obsolete. He points to an emerging trend of private equity firms and large players buying old-fashioned companies to replace their labour force with new technology, citing SoftBank moving in on a security guarding company where he expects guards to be replaced with AI solutions. His conclusion is that staying stuck in old technologies is risky, because if a company does not implement AI, someone else will take it over and do it.

    “I think probably a lot of the risk now in society and in the stock market is some of these old businesses which are just going to be replaced or totally obsolete.”at 7:16

Topics

  • corporate AI adoption
  • labor replacement by AI
  • post-crisis recovery

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