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Delta CEO Ed Bastian Talks Traveling This Holiday Season, AI Spending

With Ed Bastian

Summary

Delta CEO Ed Bastian discussed holiday travel demand, the airline's AI strategy, and fuel-driven cost pressures. He said demand has stayed strong on the back of the experience economy, with Delta seeing its best pricing in premium cabins and no pushback on higher fares, which he attributes to supply and demand and a partial catch-up after post-pandemic flat or falling fares. On AI, Bastian said Delta has been cautious, expects gains mainly in efficiency rather than growth, and argued that AI will need new business models to earn back the heavy capital it consumes; Delta is handling AI shopping agents by verifying the customer behind each agent and limiting actions to what the customer requests. On costs, he said margins have largely held despite fuel increases, but that it is too early to call the oil shock over, and he would not predict whether the industry shakeout leads to consolidation or bankruptcies. He also said Delta is bullish on Amazon's LEO satellite broadband, which he expects on Delta planes within eighteen months.

Key takeaways

  • Ed Bastian on AI: overall outlook: AI's return on huge capital and resource use is still early; new business models are needed to justify it.
  • Ed Bastian on Airlines & aviation: Weaker, less-capitalized airlines are under more pressure; the fuel shock has made their problems worse.
  • Ed Bastian (bullish on Amazon.com): Amazon LEO will be a great in-flight internet product, reaching Delta planes within about eighteen months.

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Amazon.com

Across the shows: 49 speakers in other episodes, 64 bullish and 10 bearish calls, past 30 days

  • Ed Bastian · Delta Air LinesBullish

    Amazon LEO will be a great in-flight internet product, reaching Delta planes within about eighteen months.

    Bastian says Delta has been a leader in airline Wi-Fi, having launched free high-speed Wi-Fi five years ago, and that Delta chose a different path from Starlink with a different business model. He says Delta plays the long game and expects the Amazon LEO product to be a great product. He says it will be coming to Delta's planes relatively soon, over the next eighteen months, and he is very confident in the decision.

    “we know the Amazon LEO product is going to be a great product. It's going to be coming to the skies here relatively soon over the next eighteen months.”at 9:05

AI: overall outlook

  • Ed Bastian · Delta Air Lines

    AI's return on huge capital and resource use is still early; new business models are needed to justify it.

    Bastian says it is early innings for AI returns, given the investment flowing into the technology, hyperscalers, data centers, energy, water and labor. He says the question of returns is the right one to keep in mind, though not necessarily the right time to demand them. He argues that for the technology to generate the returns it needs for the capital it consumes, it has to create growing businesses and new business models, citing healthcare and discovery as possible areas.

    “I think it's early innings... And in order for the technology to generate the returns it needs with the amount of capital it's consuming, you have to think about this as going to grow businesses, new businesses.”at 1:49

Airlines & aviation

  • Ed Bastian · Delta Air Lines

    Weaker, less-capitalized airlines are under more pressure; the fuel shock has made their problems worse.

    Asked whether the airline shakeout is over, Bastian says it is too early to declare the fuel shock behind the industry and that fuel could go higher. He argues that some airlines were already close to the edge and not making money before the oil shock, and the higher fuel prices have made their position harder. He does not give a view on whether consolidation or bankruptcy is the outcome.

    “there are certainly airlines that are closer to the edge and weren't making money prior to the oil shock”at 8:10

Across the shows

What other episodes Chorus covered said about the same companies in the 30 days up to this one.

  • Amazon.com49 speakers · 64 bullish, 10 bearish calls

Topics

  • AI return on investment
  • AI returns for airlines
  • AI shopping agents
  • airline consolidation & bankruptcy risk
  • airline travel demand
  • fuel cost pass-through
  • satellite broadband

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